For the abolitionists, they take this idea to its conclusion, right. So the abolitionists reject this second victim idea? elizabeth diasĬompletely.
They’ve always put the emphasis on the doctor or the provider of the abortion instead of the woman, and they talk about the woman as sort of a second victim of abortion. And they don’t want to blame the woman for her choice in ending the pregnancy. And that’s what differentiates them from the mainstream of the anti-abortion movement, which for years has made a point of saying that abortion harms not just the fetus, but also the woman who has the procedure. That women should be prosecuted, so actually like, put on trial, go to jail - like that? elizabeth dias
And what’s more, they think that women who have the procedure should be prosecuted for abortion. And they’re saying they think it should be in the criminal code. So they’re essentially saying abortion is the same thing as killing a person. So they want to categorize abortion from conception, literally, as homicide, under the law. And they say that if life begins at conception, and abortion is murder, then that is how it should be seen in the law. The hard edge of the anti-abortion movement sort of takes all of this one or 10 steps farther. The thing that ties together the anti-abortion movement broadly is the idea that abortion is murder and that it ends a human life. What exactly does it want, and how is it different from the mainstream? elizabeth dias So tell me about this hard edge of the movement, as you called it. And is there an opportunity for this hard edge to assert itself in a new way. So in this new post-Roe world, I really wanted to understand what does that tension between the mainstream and the fringe of the anti-abortion movement look like. And the landscape has completely changed. sabrina taverniseĪnd the mainstream has never really had to grapple in a real way with that fringe element before, because for years, the movement as a whole was really focused on overturning Roe. And for them, nothing has been acceptable except the complete end of abortion at conception. The mainstream of the anti-abortion movement has put forward for years what they’ve called an incremental strategy, which is adding restriction by restriction to start to peel back the right to an abortion.Īnd there’s also been a fringe of the movement that’s had more extreme positions. And there’s different factions within the movement that want different things and have different amounts of power. And I think a lot of people think that the anti-abortion movement is somewhat of a monolith. I’ve been covering the anti-abortion movement pretty closely over the last decade. Where did you start your reporting? elizabeth dias So Elizabeth, you cover religion for The Times, and you’ve been reporting on the anti-abortion movement and where it goes now that Roe has fallen. Today, my colleague Elizabeth Dias on how an extreme wing of the movement, one that wants to punish women who have abortions, has become increasingly influential in setting the terms of the debate.
In the weeks since Roe was overturned, divisions have emerged within the anti-abortion movement over where to go next. sabrina taverniseįrom The New York Times, I’m Sabrina Tavernise. Please review the episode audio before quoting from this transcript and email with any questions. While it has been reviewed by human transcribers, it may contain errors. This transcript was created using speech recognition software. An extreme wing of the anti-abortion movement wants to criminalize the procedure as homicide. Transcript The Effort to Punish Women for Having Abortions Fact-checked by Susan Lee.
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